Just thought I'd bring some things up here. First of all, the Intention of the Abyss is listed as a Chain on the Chains (Species) page - but she's more like a deity than she is a Chain... As well, the Intention of the Abyss' Dolls page needs a portal (that can replace the Intention's if we agree that she's not a Chain).
As well - although it's just speculation; I thought I'd bring up something that I saw about Zai's eyes here and see what you guys think. Some people seem to think that Zai's eyes have been obscured for a reason... that reason being that Zai is a Child of Ill Omen. I think this is extremely likely myself, what do you guys think?
She is a weird one, occupying the grey ground between human/chain/god. Reckoning she should still be considered a Chain - albeit a special one - Anyways most Chains are rediculously overpowered in their own way so no biggie. She's just the top-tier of top-tier :) Her dolls could still use a place though - My turn to look for replacement images for some of them notably Duldum...
Hmm Zai's eyes, a child of ill omen, what a strange theory o.o? I tcould have potential but then again Sharon's mom's (name too similar -.-) eyes were hidden too. Reckoning its more likely Jun's trying to imply something about parents and or give Zai a mysterious, unknowable impression. It could work though, so thus trivia ^_^
Well the thing with Shelly is that she only appeared in a flashback and in the form of memory-doll things in Cheshire's Dimension. Zai is different. Zai's eyes have been hidden from us for the 20 chapters he's appeared in.
Just thought that I'd add this, the English version of Volume 15 is out. I've bought it, and the only difference I could find aside from some sentences that used different words was when they called Demios, Demios the Executioner. This followed right after Vincent explained the whole Queen of Hearts thing, so her name is technically meant to be that I guess. BUT I think this is just like Albus and Albus the White Knight rather than the one and only name we should call Demios. Just thought you guys should know.
Yo Levi, sry for my untimely dissapearance - Don't know about Zai, it could be a vast amount of things, foreshadowing, etc = until Jun actual hits us in the face with something we can't really confirm anything - hence trivia :)
Kinda proud of Pandora - It actually appeared in my country even in libraries @.@ which is quite amazing. I envy you, I want to start a collection so bad but cash...borrowing brings a kinda of sadness with it....
ANYWAYS - Yup still Demios as "the executioner" is just a title.
Will start on editing the arc nav tomorrow - one is getting completed even if I have to burn my eyes out for it >:D. I'll post it here and pass me your thoughts on it.
Oh guys an interesting thought popped into my head while permanizing the top nav - Since Oz is the Chain and Alice is technically human, shouldn't Alice be Oz's contractor? XD
Oh I challenge you guys to find one character that's not on the topnav lists in some form - aside from the non-canons, the headmaster, and Sharon's mom (my god what's her name!!), and some one use chains ie. Bandersnatch, Tove - once you've failed =D any ideas on how to include above said??
Problem is some characters are well just normal people...and there are way too many chains to fit under a single list. Changing the categories is an option btw - but pass me the new categories.
Thought I should let someone know that I'm messing around with the Nobility within Pandora Hearts page, as with the recent chapters there really isn't a "Current Four Great Dukedoms". I mean Bernard and Oscar are dead, Rufus is working for Oswald (at least for now) and Sheryl is currently up for execution. Should things change and the Four Great Dukedoms resurface and things reorganize themselves I'll fix it, but until that point I think the structure could use a change.
I compiled the navs here - going to add misc as soon as its done.
I can't decide whether "member" sections should include deceased but still-affiliated members - ie Baskerville and Fang, OR whether they should go in "previous members" (currently includes any dead or former member)
Also, yes we've discussed this before but serious doubts are arising - should Claude, Elliot, Leo and the rest of the Nightrays be considered under Pandora (which also has the issue of its defunction...) Its killing me...what to do? what to do?
All right, this'll be long, but I guess it's time for a history lesson. I'll try to stick to the main points...
Gil and Vince were born into a life where their mother sold them to a freakshow when they were young because of Vincent's eye. Eventually, they were approached by the Droplets of Light that the Abyss extends to special humans who hae certain distortions around them, in order to choose its Messengers of the Abyss (Baskervilles). Gil/ Vince then became Baskervilles and were guided by the power of the Abyss to Sablier to meet the rest of the Baskerville Clan. After the Tragedy, Gil and Vince were realeased from the Abyss before the Vessalius and Nightray Doors to the Abyss. Vincent convinced Bernard Nightray to adopt him because of the secrets he knew about the Tragedy. About five years go by and Oz's Coming of Age Ceremony plays out, with Gil attending as Oz's valet. Afterwards, Gil blames himself for Oz's disappearence and runs away, only to bump into Break. Break convinces Gil to allow himself to be adopted by the Nightrays so that he can Contract with Raven and they can use Raven to save Oz from the Abyss. Gil agrees, but Bernard is skeptical, only agreeing to adopt Gil because Vincent told Bernard that Gil was the only one who could Contract with Raven. Thus, because they were accepted by the Droplets of Life, they're Baskervilles-by their birth right. However, in a legal sense, they're Nightrays because of their adoptions, but in no way do they actually have legitimate links to the Nightrays to make them truly in the family.
Oz is a Chain. Originally, Oz was two black rabbit dolls brought into the Abyss by Lacie. The dolls shared a soul created by the Abyss' powers and one doll stayed in the Abyss while the other returned to Earth with Lacie. Around 20 years later, Lacie returns her doll to the Abyss and leaves. Lacie dies, but gives birth to twins before her death. Both twins are embraced by the Nucleus of the Abyss and accelerate in age within seconds. One twin grabs a doll and leaves the Abyss with it (Alice), while the other remains in the Abyss with the other doll, allowing the Nucleus of take over her body (Intention).
Over time, the Intention gives her Oz doll a piece of Lacie that she'd saved from the darkness of the Abyss. Oz takes it into his body and delivers it to Jack through his Earthly body, destroying it in the process and making Jack believe that Lacie's alive and is one with the Abyss. Jack manipulates the Intention into making her Oz doll a Chain that can destroy the Chains around the world which prevent its fall into the Abyss. Jack forms an Illegal Contract with this Chain and severs the Chains, dooming Sablier and slaughtering Baskervilles (including Oswald) in the process. After an interaction with the Nucleus, Jack's soul is rejected from the Abyss because of the Abyssal power in his body making it seem like something foreign to the Abyss. Jack is cursed to forever have his body rewind itself, a process which destroys a part of Jack's soul every time it occurs, almost completely destroying Jack's soul after 100 years have passed. Jack convinces Zai to switch his stillborn infant for Jack's infant body. Zai complies to save Rachel Cecile the suffering she'd endure. What's left of Jack's soul goes dormant and Oz's takes over, believing itself to be human and named Oz Vessalius. After the Coming of Age Ceremony, Oz and Alice form a Contract in the Abyss, thus returning Oz's powers to him (as Alice had stolen them 100 years before). This sparks Jack's return, Jack sending the group on a hunt for Alice's memories, as they all contain pieces of Jack's soul, in order to piece Jack together enough that he can attempt to destroy the world and reunite with Lacie once more.
Yes FemNorway what is it supposed to be... :P........ Anyway because we are new at this we dont really know exactly what to do and anyway i strongly believe that where the names Tadashi and Akio are should just have the word Characters and then after that should be the characters..........In other words FemNorway and I have no idea how to work this thing called Wikia
Well no, we know that Alice's soul is in a junction that was created by the Abyss and connects the twin sisters' souls, so in all technicality Alice is in the Abyss. Not to mention that souls go to the Abyss after death as the Abyss is the beginning and end of everything, as Levi had stated. Her status should remain deceased though because Alice has been dead for more than 100 years and was only clinging to an existance because she basically possessed Oz. Alyss isn't dead, however because of this junction that connects the sisters' souls, Alyss is able to make contact with Alice despite the fact that Alice is dead and Alyss is not. It worked out the same way just after Alice killed herself and her soul ended up in the junction where the Intention was able to interact with it.
All right, all done. Something I thought I should bring up, we don't allow fanart here, and while the image from Repose which you uploaded is well done, we still don't do fan art. In fact if you happen to find any one else's fanart feel free to delete it. We got rid of a lot of it a while ago, but there's still some here and there.
Levi, I'm wondering why they take so long to translate Pandora Hearts chapter 81. Do you think they will wait until Jack's birthday? They did release new chapters on Vincent's birthday, Leo's birthday and Oz's birthday.
Well Retrace LXXXI wasn't released yet, an Extra Episode called It makes all kinds (page includes summary) was released instead and LXXXI comes in February.
Hard to say why Jun didn't release Retrace LXXXI this month and is instead waiting until next month. While I'm unaware of whether or not something has been said on the matter, a lot of people think that LXXXI is going to be another 70-page major heart-wrench kind of chapter. With this in mind, I posted my opinon elsewhere, which states that I think Oscar may die in LXXXI. I say this only because the last character death of real impact (no one likes Bernard... ) was Elliot and that was 22 chapters ago as of LXXXI, as well with the sentimental look into Oscar's time with Duchess Vessalius and the tough decision he's faced with to kill Oz in order to save Ada made me feel as though LXXX: Oscar Vessalius was the start of Oscar's swan song.
Everyone agrees that something horrible is bound to happen though, so I guess it's just a matter of time, as for birthdays I don't know personally if any chapter was ever released on a character's birthday, (as they'd all have to be on the 18th :p ) but it seems as an extreme improbability that birthdays have something to do with Jun's decision to delay the release of LXXXI.
Hey Levi! long time no see. I remember that you requested images of some chains. Sorry I can't find that message. Can you just remind me which ones you were searhing for? Im sorry that it's taking me AGES. This time Ill find them, just tell me which ones.
It's the images of "The Fawn" Chain from Episode 23: A Warp in the World because the one on The Fawn's page isn't the greatest. For sure we need images on the Fawn in its first appearance, and then we should also have another from when it starts to battle Alice and its horns and overall size grew.
Here are the images of the Fawn. Sorry this is the best quality I could manage. Of course if you find better quality then feel free to replace these ones with the HQ ones. Again sorry for the long long wait :P
I'm not entirely sure I understand what you mean? Do you mean what the template is called? There are two separate ones for characters and Chains and they're called Template:Character and Template:Chain respectively. If this is not what you mean, let me know :)
Yup as Levi stated they're templates : For imp characters like Oz, Alice, Elliot - the character/chain boxes are on separate pages. You can tell characters that are like this when you can't edit the template:character/chain on their main page
For the others like say Duchess Vessalius, you can simply edit the template:character on their main page, just hover the cursor over it
To create a new template is rather simple : If in visual mode - under templates on the right hand side, click add templates (also where you add other templates) - then type Characters or Chain depending on the character (it should give you a recommendation list as you type). For source, its abit harder : see Duchess V's page in source to see how templates are written :)
For big characters (Elliot, etc) a new page is created. See Alice's infobox, copy it XD. Looking to make this more obvious/simple in the future so bear with it for now.
That should help abit :)