The user EchoPH is repeatedly asking several people (one of the Goldstar, who I believe is no longer active) to change Echo's height and age, even though it was proven untrue. I was frankly quite terrible at first, as I lost my temper (I get prone to that when people argue about stuff like age and height... idk it seems kind of ... unimportant. Sorry if you think it's important. Awkward) and told her to stop arguing for something proven to be false. However, I have apologized to her for my behavior, and asked her again to drop the issue. My behavior probably exacerbated the situation and I am really sorry for that If you have the time, with your power as an admin, message EchoPh and tell her to stop? I already asked her to stop spreading false information but it seems to have no effect. I understand that since the page is locked, she probably can't do anything anyways, but honestly I don't want to create the same age wars again (Like the crazy ones for Break and Gilbert) Thank you so much for reading this, and I apologize once again for my childish and immature behavior towards EchoPH. I already messaged Lovelly11(She seemed close to EchoPH) and antinotimin, so you might not have to do anything. I'm really sorry to keep asking so much of you.....
no...there really isn't. If you mean the pictures, they were obvisouly tampered with, if you mean the japanese wiki, it was probably tamprered with as well, even possibly by the same person who messed up the picures. (Kudos to them for the effort, I guess they REALLY want Echo to be 13 and 5"6.5 Seriosuly, wtf is their problem they need to get a life instead of making fake bios for characters.)
I really think you and this anon should talk privately about this height and age issue already, it's getting kind of ridiculous.
They were yelling at the user because she was vandalising the page with her arguements. They were just trying to clarify things for the user, and they were propbably frustrated because she REFUSED TO SEE SENSE, and gave no indication that she understood the facts. Aside from that, the user made no other problems, so ... just stop it already.
It has come....again....
This time, it's about Echo's height, birthday, and physical vs mental age. Is it possible to disable comments until the battle dies down, because people keep refusing to see the official facts, and insist that their fan opinion is more legitimate. If it isn't possible, I suppose that's fine too, but can you intervene a little if you do have the time? Thank you very much.
I assume that it's possible to disable commenting somehow - I just don't know how myself, as I'm not the one who imposed them. I'm more geared toward information gathering than the construction of templates and website structure - I can intervene I suppose but it really depends on the seriousness of this war. I'd give it a little more time before anything serious has to be done. *Sigh* I really don't know what to do - even if I knew how to disable the comments sections on pages Idk if I'd want to because it'd ruin the conversations that other uses actually have, a lot of them including series questions. It just doesn't seem fair to do that because of some arguing users :/
Is there any mention of the character's wight? I think all of them are super skinny except for Alice, Intention of the Abyss, and Lacie (They look average and slim, but not underweight). THere's a lot of difference with the character's body types, Echo looks a lot thinner than Alice does (Who is slim, but realistic looking). I think Jun MOchozki does a great job drawing body types, they all look so real, but is there an official weight for every character? Thank you
lol ok guys, there's no official weight. THey are all equally skinny in my opinion except for Lacie and Lottie (They look a little bigger than the rest)
So it doesn't really matter, and Echo is probably 160 cm, sorry EchoPH. I think it was Antinotimin or some user that found a picture that listed all the heights of the characters, and Echo is clearly drawn with a 160 cm line on her head. (She's shorter than lottie who is 165 cm. Official drawing take precedence over opinions, don't you think?
I heard it's not healthy to think about characters' weight, it makes us create impossible standards for our own weight. I don't want this message wall to be the cause of that for other people, and you should stop littering this person's wall with your arguements.
yes but I have a picture that says ECho's 160 cm. Maybe we should just take the mean (164.5) Haha jkjkjkj
I really don't know about her height, what should we put? Should we just put like a general range like 160-169 since we have so many contradictory evidence?
oh ok then. (HOnestly, all I wanted to know was if there was an official weight, and I wanted to sow you how ridiculous giving characters stats were by only using fan opinon. It was a demonstration, per say. However, I shouldn't have littered Levi's wall to educate a user. For that, i'm sorry)
And echoPH, both Lovelly21, Antinotimin, and I agreed on the comments section that Echo is pretty much 160 cm. Please drop the issue
声：広橋涼 / 同左
Seiyuu: Ryō Hirohashi / same as on the left
Age:13 years old. Height : 169cm. Birthday : June 25. Blood Type : AB.
声： - / 広橋涼
年齢：不明(物理的に 13歳)。身長：169 cm。
Age : Unknown (appears 13 years old). Height : 169cm
That means Echo is 13 and physically is Noise and they are 169cm tall. Could you please fix that?
I'll change the age to be more ambiguous, but I think saying 13 is a bit of a stretch - could you maybe find the source of their information? Unfortunately wikipedia can also be edited by anyone with an account, so potentially people can just go in and plug in information they think is right. I'll put the age as "Early-Mid Adolescence (13-15)", how's that? I'm hoping that Pandora Hearts 24 + 1: Last Dance will clear the age debate up :/
Ugh I'm posting so many messages... this is so embarassing...
(I swear this is going to be the last one prbably)
But while I was creating Robin WIngfield's page, I noticed that there's no option for katakana, so I put his katakana under the "kanji" section....I noticed that's the same for all of the other characters... Is this a minor issue, or should we look into this (I was afraid we'd have to cange the tempalte for ivery single thing...) Thanks, and i'm really sorry Ikeep littering your message wall... :/
I never knew that you could use the IP address to find out who the anonymous person is, but when I clicked on it (lol it was by accident), I saw that he had been commenting some days before the crimson shell comment, and made some remarks using my username... I don't mind that much since they were pretty harmless comments (honestly, I have no idea why he's using other people's usernames to comment) but I would just like to tell you especially (Since you're the head of this WIki) that i ALWAYS log in before I comment.... and don't trust anonymous comments coming from "me"... Thanks so much.... -.-
Pandora Hearts wiki is in the process of merging with the Crimson-Shell wiki to become a Mochizuki wiki. It's better as a whole because it brings together similar subject matter that all shares defining features (such as their artist, certain plot similarities, character Easter Egg cross overs etc). It's been done many other places (Arrow+The Flash wiki, Disney wiki etc - I mean how stupid would it be to have separate wikis for every aspect of the Disney world, the situation is similar in that sense). Also, even though Crimson-Shell isn't as popular because of how short-lived it was, Pandora Hearts isn't exactly as popular either, as it only relies on a slightly larger fanbase that is still relatively underground by comparison to other manga series.The point is that this is no longer just the Pandora Hearts wiki, and that's how it's going to remain.
First of all, it wasn't just us making the decision. A while ago it was knowledge known across the wiki that the Crimson-Shell merger was being considered, and there was even a poll for it at one point. The process was stalled afterwards though, which is why it's happening now rather than then. Secondly, you're not even a registered user, and you're so far the only one complaining about the Merger Project, and I can assure you that it won't be halted because a sole anon is having a temper tantrum